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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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"Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics applies to closed systems - the Earth isn't one. Our planet receives 174 petawatts of energy from the sun everyday, fueliing growth, wather, and evolution. Entropy increases overall, but locally, energy input drimves order and complexity.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Here is another problem with evolution - who taught our ancestors to speak and count? "Science without religion is lame;..." Albert Einstein

One of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, Dr. A. R. Wallace was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that: "The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty."

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Who taught them to speak and count?
They learned it on their own of course over time. That's no mystery. Incidentally Einstein didn't believe it a personal God or any formal religion.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Bull****! Don't tell me time did it or Wallace is an idiot, tell how time did it when there were only backward illiterate savages around.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Yes, Albert Einstein accepted the general concept of evolution, viewing it as a real phenomenon, although he was not a biologist and his views on the mechanisms were sometimes confused. He used the debate between Darwinian and Lamarckian evolution as a metaphor for his own work on special and general relativity, noting the difficulty in distinguishing between the two theories experimentally, as he stated in Relativity: The Special and the General Theory. He rejected creationist views and saw the scientific evidence for evolution as incompatible with religious creationism as taught in fundamentalist circles.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

If he did, it was earlier in his life, before he came to understand the functions of natural laws, which you're yet to grasp. My advice to you, quit living in the past and grow up as Einstein did. "Science without religion is lame;...." Albert Einstein

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Einstein also thought the Christian religion was childish. It seems all the info you have of evolution is over 100 years old. Try to learn something new. That you lie about Wallace is indicative of someone with no valid arguments.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

It was in 1875 when Dayanand emerge to remind Indians that they've fallen and it is time to go back to the Vedas.

Wallace further wrote in "Social Environment and Moral Progress," strongly refuting the social and moral evolution theory:"In the earliest records which have come down to us from the past, we find ample indications that accepted standard of morality and the conduct resulting from these were in no degree inferior to those which prevail today, though in some respects, they were different from ours. The wonderful collection of hymns known as the Vedas are a vast system of religious teachings as pure and lofty as those of the finest portions of the Hebrew Scriptures. Its authors were fully our equals in their conception of the universe and the Deity expressed in the finest poetic language."

"In it (Veda) we find many of the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers." "We must admit that the mind which conceived and expressed inappropriate language, such ideas as are everywhere present in those Vedic hymns, could not have been inferior to those of the best of our religious teachers and poets to our Milton, Shakespeare, and Tennyson."

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Vijai Singh - That's such a HUGE pile of BS that it's hilarious and pathetic.

Re: "Evolution breaks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics"

Tell that to Mark Twain, Albert Einstein, Voltaire & Marco Polo!

"India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace; human speech, the mother of history..." Twain

"We owe a lot to Indians who taught us how to count..." Einstein

"It doesn’t behoove us, who were only savages and barbarians when these Indian people were civilized & learned, to dispute their antiquity." Voltaire

“Leaving the Island of Ceylon and sailing westerly, you reach the subcontinent of greater India, the noblest and richest country in the world.” - Marco Polo, 1292.