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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.

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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002

It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
It must be in harmony with reasoning.
Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
It must be in harmony with science.
Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-

Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Dec 28, 2024 - 7:05AM

Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

Belief in God 'childish',.....Jews not chosen people..
Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

Einstein's letter

p

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:07AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

Thomas Paine taught me not to "admit of any other revelation than that which is manifested in the book of Creation, and to contemplate the Creation as the only true and real word of God that ever did or ever will exist; and everything else is fable and imposition."

v

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:10AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

"Thomas Paine taught me.."

And who taught Paine?

p

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:31AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

Do you agree that only God could have created the universe? If so, then you will admit that the universe is a revelation. Revelation means to reveal something, and if the creation reveals the power and wisdom of God, as it does, then you agree with Paine.

v

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:32AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

So how come the universe as a revelation didn't teach you as it did for Paine?

p

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:33AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

It did.
From creation we learn the power and wisdom of God. Only a very powerful being is capable of creating the vast universe and the wonderful structure of the universe prove to us, far better than books can do, the existence of a God. The universe reflects the wisdom of God.

v

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:35AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

"Thomas Paine taught me"

Hey dum-b-a-ss, I'm speaking of you and not "we".

p

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:36AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

I am saying that nature is a path to God. This path to God is not only right, it is a delight. God’s revelation through nature is experience by all people.

"The Creation speaks a universal language... It preaches to all nations and to all worlds..." Thomas Paine

v

Dec 28, 2024 - 7:39AM

Re: Belief in God 'childish'... Einstein

"I am saying that nature is a path to God."

Says who?

Did "all the world" includes the 'Neanderthals' & early 'Homo Sapiens' who figure this out the same way as you & Paine did?

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