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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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The 5th Veda ???

Namaste ji 🙏

I am currently researching this website ~ jagatgururampalji.org

Rampal ji Maharaja say there are not only 4 Veda but there is also a 5th one ?

And it explains that this world we are residing in ...is being controlled by Kaal / Satan ?

Apart from you Vijaiji....,I haven't seen nor read any comments ,discussions nor debates from other from the Arya Samaj camp ?

Yes I am aware of the attack done toward Satlok ashram in the past by the people who claims to follow Dayanand Saraswati.

What would Dayanand Saraswati think of all this attacking towards Satlok ashram...,if he was physically present today ?

Namaste,

Dean

Re: The 5th Veda ???

I am currently researching this website ~ jagatgururampalji.org

Vj ~ Namasteji, it is good that you're exploring other ideas. It is a necessity to establish what is true or false.

Rampal ji Maharaja say there are not only 4 Veda but there is also a 5th one ?
Vj ~ If there is a 5th one, Ramplaji made it up. Swami Dayanand is the authority on Vedic philosophy, no one else.

Apart from you Vijaiji....,I haven't seen nor read any comments ,discussions nor debates from other from the Arya Samaj camp ?
Vj ~ How could they when they show deep discontentment in what I'm doing? Acquiring the knowledge without putting it into practice is book knowledge, not wisdom.

What would Dayanand Saraswati think of all this attacking towards Satlok ashram...,if he was physically present today?
Vj ~ If only Swami Dayanand had lived another 10 years it would not have been only a different India but a different world.

"Dayananda was the first leader in the field of theology who welcomed the advances of sciences and technology. To him, the Vedas as the sourcebook contains the seed of science, and to him, the Vedas advocate the philosophy of dynamic realism." Romain Rolland
Namaste