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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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Richard Dawkins
Ten years. Sadly missed.
Dawkins Award 2011 Christopher Hitchens
presenting the Richard Dawkins Award on behalf of Atheist Alliance of America, Houston, 8th

Vijai Singh
It is better to be an atheist than a hypocrite, but should it end there?
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein

Keg
Buffoon friend! How are you doing?
Still making a public fool of yourself by offering quotes you don't understand while committing the logical fallacy of suggesting a renowned figure must necessarily have been an authority in all his pronouncements?
That's TWO errors in ONE!

Vijai Singh
I'm fantastic, mate!
Here is another from this buffoon.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell!
The best way I can explain this, is, I do not belong to any of those two groups.
Can you say the same?

Keg
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously." - Einstein

Vijai Singh
I agree! Now all you have to show me the concepts that make my God personal.

Keg
I have no idea what your "god" is!
I have no special access to your wild imagination.

Vijai Singh
Whose fault is that? - http://vjsingh.info
It can't be done in a state of stupidity or intelligence?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

Keg
“A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.” ― Russell

Vijai Singh
Which one are you?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

Keg
There is so much I could teach you, & much I already have. Pay attention!
“A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.” ― Russell

Vijai Singh
Neither of us can change.
"Only the wisest and stupidest of men never change." Confucius
You've already unconsciously translated me into something you can understand, a buffoon, before even perusing my work. So far you haven't laid out any criticism on it.

Keg
You CAN change, & since you are the one who needs to, you should pay heed to my advice.
Either lay out a solid case for your beliefs, or continue to be taken lightly as you currently are.
The world is already full of buffoons thinking they are wise. Raise your game!

Vijai Singh
No! He says neither of us can change, unless you think you're smarter that he is?
As you can't notice, taken lightly by a fool isn't much of a challenge?
What is known by reason & science and conforms to natural laws aren't assumptions! Who else in the world can define it?