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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Genocide/slavery are never justified. Never.

Alex Fleming
Your people enslaved africans, ****** It's your history deal with it

Vijai Singh
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling with a sincere heart as you would Christ." Eph 6:5
"A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority." Booker T. Washington

Alex Fleming
You dont know **** about natural laws. If you did you'd toss evolution to the can

Vijai Singh
The same with you, if you knew about natural laws you'd toss the Bible to the can.
Christianity is not even in harmony with reasoning or science, never mind natural laws.

Alex Fleming
God created natural laws. He can change them if he wants to.

Vijai Singh
You don't crap about natural laws. Where in the Bible God says he created natural laws?
If he can change them Christians would all be living in fear of excreting feces via the mouth.

Alex Fleming
God miraculously created the world and placed into it what the Bible calls “good” things, what we call the laws of nature.
God is the author of these laws. He can break them to do a miracle whenever he wants.

Vijai Singh
If the laws can be broken, why are using it to debunk evolution?

Alex Fleming
Because the laws can only be broken when God wants to do so. A miracle only occurs when God wants it. Evolution violates because God did not choose to break them then. The Bible describes the creation of the world. If evolution occurred the Bible would have mentioned it.

Vijai Singh
What do you know of natural laws?
Einstein knew it did!
"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Albert Einstein

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
Such as physics, evolution, science in general, history etc..

Alex Fleming
You dont know **** about natural laws. If you did you'd toss evolution to the can
Vijai Singh
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Dec 15
The same with you, if you knew about natural laws you'd toss the Bible to the can.

Christianity is not even in harmony with reasoning or science, never mind natural laws.


Alex Fleming
God created natural laws. He can change them if he wants to.

Vijai Singh
You don't crap about natural laws. Where in the Bible God says he created natural laws?
If he can change them Christians would all be living in fear of excreting feces via the mouth.

Alex Fleming
God miraculously created the world and placed into it what the Bible calls “good” things, what we call the laws of nature.

God is the author of these laws. He can break them to do a miracle whenever he wants.

Vijai Singh
So what was he doing before he miraculously created this world?

Alex Fleming
Who the heck knows.

Vijai Singh
Science knows!
You should try poison now!
"They shall cast out devils, they shall speak in tongues, they will handle snakes and if they drink poison it will not hurt them and...." Gospel of Mark 16: 17 and 18

Alex Fleming
The Bible is true

Vijai Singh
So it is true the earth is flat and the sun is moving?

Alex Fleming
Better than belief in reincarnation!

Vijai Singh
How is it better when the earth isn't flat and the sun isn't moving?

Alex Fleming
Reincarnation was never proven

Vijai Singh
Why do you need proof?
There is proof the earth is spherical and the sun is stationary and yet you think your Bible is the truth.

Alex Fleming
Nothing to do with reincarnation, mate

Vijai Singh
It has everything to do with reincarnation.
You were born to be stupid for a reason and what the next birth holds for you is even worst.
Nothing can change that because there is absolutely no cure for a fool.

Alex Fleming
**** off. Jesus came to save the world.

Vijai Singh
Jesus couldn't save himself!
"Father, why has thou forsaken me"


Alex Fleming
Because the laws can only be broken when God wants to do so. A miracle only occurs when God wants it. Evolution violates because God did not choose to break them then. The Bible describes the creation of the world. If evolution occurred the Bible would have mentioned it.

Vijai Singh

The most important function of natural laws is to preserve heaven for the wise and because it is immutable no fools can get in disturb that heavenly bliss.

Did Adam & Eve and their immediate descendants read the Bible?

Alex Fleming
No. Adam did not have the Bible.

Vijai Singh
What an injustice!
No ten commandments!
God's fault Cain committed murder.
Bad planning, won't you say?

Alex Fleming
No, I wouldn't say that

Vijai Singh
Why not, isn't God's word good enough for all his people?
Ignorance is an incurable disease.

Alex Fleming
Jesus came for a reason, mate