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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Learn how to read properly, Vijai.
*That* quote reflects poorly on you, as does your dependence on quotes. Your entire argument crumbles under its own weight if you don't use quotes to prop it up. Which means your argument is garbage, and your quotes are a crutch.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
I've moved on from reading to reasoning guided by the correct knowledge, it is why you're still an idiot.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
No you haven't. You've become a textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Vijai Singh
@vjsn
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Nov 9
The very serious problem of intellectuals
"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking." Albert Einstein

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Einstein was an intellectual, you moron.
You keep trying to attack educated people, but all it demonstrates is your ignorance.
Learn how to argue for yourself.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
These are the two kinds of people I attack.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell
Which one are you?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
No, you attack educated people. I suspect it's because you aren't educated, and are insecure about it.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
So is it ok with Russell attacking educated people, right, or is he also uneducated?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Russel wasn't saying anything about educated people.
*You* are clearly uneducated, Vijai, and you're bitter about being bested by educated people.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
So you're saying the intelligent who he referred to as full full of doubt are uneducated?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
No, I'm saying the stupid and cocksure ones are uneducated, just like you, Vijai.
You're so **** sure you're correct you can't see how blatantly stupid you look.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
I really don't give a **** about what you're saying.
He is saying the world has only two groups of people "cocksure" & "full of doubt" and both include scientists, lawyers, professors, doctors, etc., so you're right I'm not educated, but I'm enlightened to know the difference.

Turk Hill
@hill_turk
Are you "cocksure" or "full of doubt"?

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
I'm neither! Which one are you?

Turk Hill
@hill_turk
I'm also neither!

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
Replying to
@hill_turk
So what are you?
The only thing I can think of now that you fit into, is the stupor state.

Turk Hill
@hill_turk
Replying to
@vjsn
Are you "cocksure" or "full of doubt"?

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
When I asked such a question, it means I already know the answer, but when you asked my question, it means you don't know.
I agree with Confucius "...the stupidest of men never change", for if you weren't you would've given an answer - a fool, intelligent or I don't know.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Replying to
@vjsn
Frankly it doesn't matter what you think, since you're on the stupid end of the spectrum.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
How could I be the one?
If you ever get to know you're the stupidest will you be that anxious to let the world know about it?
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius