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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 6
Observation is how I know.
The human lifetime is not long enough, and out memories are too limited to master everything.
The limits of biology make it physically impossible.
He was religious, religion was more relevant during his lifetime. It means nothing more.

Vijai Singh Nov 6
Well, if you seem to think human lifetime is not long enough to master everything, doesn't that mean "observation" has failed you?
Well to an idiot who relies on observation it may not mean anything else, but for the enlightened there is a higher method than science.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 6
It isn't long enough. That much is fact.
Only idiots dismiss observation.
You aren't enlightened, don't even try that rubbish.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn ov 6
So you don't think the "fact" of finding the right source matters?
You're a good reason why any smart person should dismiss it. I mean, it's simply logic, if you know who isn't enlightened, you should know who is.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 6
Do you want to try that question again in away that makes sense?
You aren't smart, Vijai. Don't try to speak for people superior to you. You are neither rational nor well-informed. Thus, by definition, you are not enlightened.
You're a pseudo-intellectual just pretending.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn ov 7
Well, I can't blame you for your stupidity knowing the culture you were brought up in. The wise only exist in India.
"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made." Albert Einstein

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder NOV 7
Vijai Singh
@vjsn
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When I asked such a question, it means I already know the answer, but when you asked my question, it means you don't know.

I agree with Confucius "...the stupidest of men never change", for if you weren't you would've given an answer - a fool, intelligent or I don't know.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder ov 12
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@vjsn
Frankly it doesn't matter what you think, since you're on the stupid end of the spectrum.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
How could I be the one?
If you ever get to know you're the stupidest will you be that anxious to let the world know about it?
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
You are living proof that isn't true.
Don't start being racist.
The Arabs contributed more.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
I'm a racist for saying India is the land of the wise.
Was Einstein also a racist in saying India gave the world science?
So where did the Arabs get it from?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
You are racist for saying only India has wise people.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
I can do that because I know who is wise and if you can do better, all you have to do is name one.