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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Vijai Singh
Oct 18, 2021 - 10:38AM
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Dawkins on Twitter Part 2

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 15
Enlightenment is the highest achievement because it represents the truth.
Who else understands the laws of nature?
"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Albert

Turk Hill
@hill_turkOct 15
The world works according to the laws of nature. A lot of people do not know this simple fact

Vijai Singh Oct 16
And if you didn't get it from the same
source I did, you don't know either.

Turk Hill Oct 16
Rambam taught that the truth is the truth no matter what its source.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 17
Rambam, whoever that is, needs to have his head examined and so do you.
Truth is one, the same, for all in all ages - past, present, and in the future. It has only one source!

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 17
No, you do.
Nothing you've said is the truth. You don't even know what truth is.
You're just con man peddling lies and hiding behind butchered quotes.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 17
Here we go again, now you're claiming to know the truth.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 17
I know better than you do.
You who have never made a factually correct statement.

Turk Hill
@hill_turk 19h
I know. Most people are ignorant when it comes to the study of natural laws. for example, most people do not know that cause and effect exist in physical nature.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder 14h
Vijai is one of those people.
He can't even list a single one.
Turk Hill
14h
I think he is on the right track but he is still far off.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder 14h
He isn't. I've had interactions with him before. Nothing changes with his argument, even 100+ messages in.

Turk Hill
@hill_turk 13h
To be clear, the Greeks were the first to correctly understand the function of natural laws. Greek natural laws. The Greeks put us ahead a thousand years of knowledge. The Greeks were very intelligent. They’re still quoting Plato, modern physicists, 2500 years after his death.
Vijai Singh
@vjsn 2h
Where did the Greeks get it from?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Replying to
@vjsn
From observing the world they lived in.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
Replying
Didn't work for those who believed the earth was flat and the sun, moving, did it?


That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
·
Oct 17
No, you do.
Nothing you've said is the truth. You don't even know what truth is.
You're just con man peddling lies and hiding behind butchered quotes.
Vijai Singh
@vjsn
·
Oct 17
Here we go again, now you're claiming to know the truth.
That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
·
Oct 17
I know better than you do.
You who have never made a factually correct statement.
Turk Hill
@hill_turk
·
20h
I know. Most people are ignorant when it comes to the study of natural laws. for example, most people do not know that cause and effect exist in physical nature.
That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
·
15h
Vijai is one of those people.
He can't even list a single one.
Vijai Singh
@vjsn
·
20m
Do really think that's how I got it?

You can start here.
In studying the systems of philosophy, it is necessary that the mind adopt a discipline of impartiality and sobriety.
That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder
Replying to
@vjsn

@hill_turk
and 4 others
You never "got" anything.

Your words are hollow pseudointellectual nonsense.
2:02 PM · Oct 18, 2021·Twitter Web App

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
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3m
Replying to
@XeMurder

@hill_turk
and 4 others
If you knew that, why are you asking me to list one?

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