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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

What force? The point of what he was saying is that without a universal standard, those words have no real meaning outside of a subjective definition.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)


He is not saying there is no God!
"Science without religion is lame ...... Einstien
The "religion" he is referring to, is the true force that sets the universal standard for truth - reasoning, science & conforming to natural laws.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

Yea, and he was also wrong about the universe expanding. Using Einstein to support a god concept is incredibly ignorant of his actual history.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

That was before he found out science was lame. Space is infinite (endless) and a solar system like ours is beyond counting.

And he still maintained science is wrong about a universe from nothing and its age, and the origin of the human race from a primitive state.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

So why do you think Einstein knew everything? You can’t fathom science advancing from his work? This is so insane because your argument literally rests on Einstein being all knowing

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

He was one of the greatest scientific minds (of the West) who turned to philosophy when science couldn't give him the answers he sought.

He may not be all-knowing, but he certainly knew more than Darwin, Hawkins, Dawkins, L. Krauss and other scientific minds of our time.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

The people you mentioned know about quantum theory and actually think it’s real (unlike Einstein) so is anything you’re saying really logical? Seems like sophistry

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

What good is that, when they have only a dim or no understanding of natural laws?

"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Einstein

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

How about you help develop a vaccine without using evolution then you can tell me what **** I don’t know. Guess what my job is? Hint: I use predictions from evolution everyday to make medicine. You are clueless to the world outside your imagination

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

Prevention is better than cure!

I disseminate true knowledge to free people from the pain & misery of diseases, vaccination & medicine which further leads to the emancipation of the soul.

So good luck with your job.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

You are experiencing cognitive dissonance. Either acknowledge my point about evolution or admit to yourself that what you are pushing is in your imagination and you believe because you want to and not because it’s true

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

I've provided a
link to the philosophy I propagate. You're yet to question it. That's called stupidity!

Let me educate you, true is that which is in harmony with reasoning guided by the correct knowledge, and science and both conforming to natural laws.
I’ll do a deep dive into your ideology after you acknowledge my point about evolution.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

You’re the one who told me to so ask yourself that question.

And every point of evolution conforms to the laws of nature. You honestly don’t understand the incredible ignorance of your statements.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

According to Einstein, you're the one that is incredibly ignorant.
"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."

There is only one philosophy that teaches the functions of natural laws and you know nothing about it.

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

Do you know what the dunning Kruger effect is?

Re: Poetry of reality (Science)

Whatever it is, it's not superior to the wisdom of the Rishis.

"It is that in the ruder stages of civilization when the laws of nature are little known and but little understood... strict methods of correct reasoning are very seldom observed." Swami Dayanand