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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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#Reading #Books #Learning #Education #Change

What do you do when you get a new bookshelf as an early birthday gift? Well, you start buying a bunch of the books you want to read!

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But there is a problem with such authors.

"If there should be a conference among the most imaginative minds they will agree that almost all institutions of learning are only nurseries of prejudice, corruption, barbarism, and pedantry." Anon

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Technically, there is a problem within every human being. That being the human condition.

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Very true, but come on, a popular scientist like him should want to know what a past renowned scientist (Einstein) meant by "science without religion is lame...."

It's what is good for all humanity and not a few, that is what should be important.

Re: #Reading #Books #Learning #Education #Change

What is good for all is what is important. And I believe the main topic of this book falls in to that category.

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Then it's just another belief like all the others.

"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Einstein

The difference of what is important is the full understanding of natural laws which the "book" lacks.

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is contempt prior to investigation" - Herbert Spencer

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The principle of truth must be in conformity with the immutable laws of nature.

"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." Plato

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I'm really not sure what you're motivation is here or what your ultimate point is. But that's ok.

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You're not sure because you're here to listen and reply instead listening to understand.

The point is, a dim or no understanding of how the laws of nature function isn't enough validate a theory whether it is based on science or theology.

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No, actually I'm here answering you out of courtesy at the moment. We all have various levels of knowledge. And as I've previously stated, if I learn 1 thing from this book, then it's mission accomplished for me. Unless it's your view that everything within this book is false.

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Thank you! But whatever gave the idea I'm looking for answers?

I'm arguing from Einstein's point of view "science without religion is lame.....". Maybe it's not all false, but how would you know what is, if there is no desire study the philosophy that says it is lame?