Do good and be good!

"Do good and be good." Virtue practice in ignorance is still ignorance.

1. Nothing in this world can be produced without proper application." Mimansa
2. "Nothing can be done or made without the expenditure of time." Vaisheshika
3. "Nothing in this world can be produced without the material cause." Niyaya
4. "Nothing can be made without the requisite skill, knowledge and thought." Yoga
5. "Nothing can be made without the definite combination of atoms." Sankhaya
6. "Nothing can be made without a Maker." Vedanta

FACT: Creation of the world or anything created by man can never come into being without a maker, material, skill/knowledge, time, space and labour/instrument.

But you know that's wrong. A river isn't caused by a "rivermaker". Or rather, it's not caused by an intelligent rivermaker. It's caused by the shape of the terrain, and by weather systems causing rain which hits the mountain and flows downhill, forming a river. In fact at scale (asteroids, moons, planets, stars, solar systems, galaxies, nebulae, black holes, etc) everything we've seen appears to have been caused by non-intelligent processes like this, and so what you're saying appears to be just flat-out wrong.

Appears? Is that the word you're counting on to support your opinion, Sir?

Rivers have their purpose, like all things created by man. A river's purpose is water to sustain life of all kinds.

The moons, planets, stars,etc., all have a positive effect on humanity on the whole.
The earth rotates and revolves around the sun giving us the concept of time which never failed us. That can't be an accident.
If you need to move ON

"Science is without religion is lame, ..........." Albert Einstein

Did you ignore my point because you agree with me? I pointed to things with non-intelligent causes to dispute your claim the world must've been caused with skill/knowledge (intelligence). Unless you have evidence those things were caused with skill/knowledge, you haven't addressed my point.

Rational people form their opinions by evidence -- appearance -- because it's the only reliable way to know truth. Feel free to try to establish any alternate way of knowing truth that's as reliable as evidence. (Nobody I've asked to do this has even attempted to do it.)

What do you mean by "can't be an accident"? Do you understand gravity and why the Earth rotates around the Sun? By natural law alone (without intelligent intervention or planning) we would expect the Earth to rotate regularly and orbit the sun regularly.

In fact it'd be evidence of some additional force (possibly intelligent) if the Earth DID NOT rotate every ~24 hours, or DID NOT have regular years.

Why are you so eager to call something "god"? You clearly don't have evidence of this god, you're just vaguely pointing to natural laws and claiming false things about what our observations tell us.

I do agree with your rejection of a God based on all the irrational Abrahamic religions, but when something more rational is presented before you why not show some interest?

The six causes I listed are rational ones and they go for all things created by an all-intelligent designer and man. You won't accept it, but that's ok, but if you have the desire you will peruse my work and then comment.

"Why are you so eager to call something "god"?"

Vj ~ I was an atheist for 20 years before I began my inquires and it took me another 20 years to find the truth of man and the universe.

"You clearly don't have evidence of this god,"
Vj ~ I do have the evidence but it is for my own benefit and if you need it, be prepared to sacrifice 20 years of your life, as I did, to find it. There is no short cut to wisdom.

"you're just vaguely pointing to natural laws"
Vj ~ "But there is another prejudice which is cherished by many scholars evidently under the impression of its being a well-recognized scientific doctrine. It is that in the ruder stages of civilization when the laws of nature are little known and but little understood when mankind has not enough of the experience of the world, strict methods of correct reasoning are very seldom observed." Swami Dayanand

Albert Einstein agrees - "We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Scholars of theology, except the Aryas, have no understanding at all and for those of science, it is dim.

"what our observations tell us."
Vj ~ If your science is lame what makes you think your observations are any better?

"Science without religion is lame........." Albert Einstein