There is no need for”us guys” to prove the validity of evolution because very capable brilliant scientists have already done that many decades ago.

Here is another FACT that you should pay attention to; Evolution is firmly imbedded in reality and will still be an established fact A MILLION YEARS from now!

I'm also curious about what impeccable credentials any creationists may have.

Evolution is a breach of natural laws

Progression is always downward, a law. The theory of natural selection is indicative of nature's imperfections. According to it Nature is still improving. This theory points out the absence in Nature at present of the best forms that it will produce in the future.

There is no need for”us guys” to prove the validity of evolution because very capable brilliant scientists have already done that many decades ago.
Vj ~ Here are two quotes from Einstein that makes evolution a lame case.

“Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind.”

"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."

Further more one of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, Dr. A. R. Wallace was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that:

"The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty."

I'm also curious about what impeccable credentials any creationists may have.
Vj ~ Here is my credential - Debunking evolution

Evolution is an established fact that will remain an established fact forever! Creationism has been ruled to be pseudoscience by the highest courts and that's where it will remain forever.I suggest you get used to the idea.

“Science is lame”? What do you think is responsible for the existence of the device you are using to transmit your messages? god?

How could it be an “established fact” when “science is lame” and science’s understanding of natural law is a dim one?

You’ve not commented on any of my above quotes which means you’re not open to any further inquires. Not exactly the trait of sensible person.

But then again "The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it." Ayn Rand

There is no need for”us guys” to prove the validity of evolution because very capable brilliant scientists have already done that many decades ago.

Here is another FACT that you should pay attention to; Evolution is firmly imbedded in reality and will still be an established fact A MILLION YEARS from now!

I'm also curious about what impeccable credentials any creationists may have.

You’re not listening man. What do you know of natural laws to validate evolution as an established fact?

Should I get use to the fact these two brilliant scientists, Einstein and Dr. A. Wallace are idiots?

Even better, here is the origin of the science you brag about. It’s either an ape or God. I choose the latter.

"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made." Albert Einstein

All I need to accept,padre,is god saying”LET THERE BE EXISTENCE!”,and POOF!,everything magically materializes out of thin air is NOT the origin of existence! If YOU have a rational alternative to evolution,let's hear it! And your the one not listening if you believe the ESTABLISHED FACT of evolution is EVER going to be replaced because you people whine about it not being valid because you choose to believe an ancient,outdated collection of books written by people that didn't know much of anything,then it's obvious who are the ones not listening!

god saying”LET THERE BE EXISTENCE!”,and POOF!,everything magically materializes out of thin air is NOT the origin of existence!
Vj ~ And how is it different from a universe from nothing as science propagates? Isn't it also a "POOF"?

If YOU have a rational alternative to evolution, let's hear it!
Vj ~ How about a theory that is in harmony with reason and science and in conformity with the laws of nature?
How much do you understand the functions of natural laws? It can't be any better than Einstein.

"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Albert Einstein

because you people whine about it not being valid because you choose to believe an ancient,outdated collection of books written by people that didn't know much of anything
Vj ~ He said it long before Einstein!
"But there is another prejudice which is cherished by many scholars evidently under the impression of its being a well-recognized scientific doctrine. It is that in the ruder stages of civilization, when the laws of nature are little known and but little understood when mankind has not enough of the experience of the world, strict methods of correct reasoning are very seldom observed." Swami Dayanand

Why do you people incessantly attempt to put words in my mouth? I NEVER claimed the universe”appeared out of nothing” ! The whole concept of a state of nonexistence being in place at some point is preposterous to me! The only logical conclusion is that everything in the universe has always existed in one form or another.

I also don't agree with Einstein about the universe being”marvelously arranged”because the universe is basically a endless chaotic maelstrom where probability dictates that random events of order are possible from time to time.

INFINITY+CHAOS+RANDOMNESS+PROBABILITY = INFINITE PROBABILITY

The only logical conclusion is that everything in the universe has always existed in one form or another.
Vj ~ It is good to use logic where science failed, but there are still doubts as there is no source knowledge to support it.

I also don't agree with Einstein about the universe being”marvelously arranged”because the universe is basically a endless chaotic maelstrom
Vj ~ You missed Einstein’s whole point my friend. What do you know of natural law and its functions?
If you had any idea of how it works you would have to abandon the science of evolution as Dr. Wallace did.

One of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, Dr. A. R. Wallace was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that: "The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty."

He further wrote in "Social Environment and Moral Progress," strongly refuting the social and moral evolution theory:
"In the earliest records which have come down to us from the past, we find ample indications that accepted standard of morality and the conduct resulting from these were in no degree inferior to those which prevail today, though in some respects, they were different from ours. The wonderful collection of hymns known as the Vedas are a vast system of religious teachings as pure and lofty as those of the finest portions of the Hebrew Scriptures. Its authors were fully our equals in their conception of the universe and the Deity expressed in the finest poetic language."

There is no need for”us guys” to prove the validity of evolution because very capable brilliant scientists have already done that many decades ago.

Here is another FACT that you should pay attention to; Evolution is firmly imbedded in reality and will still be an established fact A MILLION YEARS from now!

I'm also curious about what impeccable credentials any creationists may have.

There is no need for”us guys” to prove the validity of evolution because very capable brilliant scientists have already done that many decades ago.
Vj ~ Until now, "capable brilliant scientists" do not understand the functions of natural laws, so can they prove the validity of evolution.

"But there is another prejudice which is cherished by many scholars evidently under the impression of its being a well-recognized scientific doctrine. It is that in the ruder stages of civilisation, when the laws of nature are little known and but little understood, when mankind has not enough of the experience of the world, strict methods of correct reasoning are very seldom observed." Swami Dayanand

Albert Einstein agrees - "We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Scholars of theology, except the Aryas, have no understanding at all and for those of science, it is dim.

Here is another FACT that you should pay attention to; Evolution is firmly imbedded in reality and will still be an established fact A MILLION YEARS from now!
Vj ~ So will religious dogmas, because they too are a breach of the laws of nature.

I'm also curious about what impeccable credentials any creationists may have.
Vj ~ If your desire is to know, then here are my, impeccable credentials.