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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Ancient life on Mars

Perseverance finds strongest signs yet of ancient life on Mars https://theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/nasa-perseverance-rover-finds-strongest-signs-yet-of-ancient-life-on-mars
Vj ~ We have no idea of what ancient life was on earth and we're busy looking elsewhere.
Turk Hill - We know exactly what ancient life was on earth.

Vijai Singh - The ancient life that has its origin in stupidity?
Turk Hill - okay. And so?

Vijai Singh - It means the human race you belong to is still stupid.
"What is instinctive is natural, it can neither increase nor decrease nor can it help any one to make any progress."
Turk Hill - So as a member of the human race, your saying your stupid?

Vijai Singh - How can I be, after I just explained what instinctive knowledge is incapable of doing?
Turk Hill - So your saying your smarter than Einstein?

Vijai Singh - If I answer in the affirmative, how would a fool know I am?
Turk Hill - I don’t buy that. No one's smarter than Einstein. Einstein changed the whole concept of our universe.

Vijai Singh - How could he have changed the "whole concept of the our universe" when no one knows what he meant by "science without religion is lame"?
Vj - "Science without religion is lame;.. Einstein
Krauss - "It is not clear what he meant by that."
Turk Hill - Since when did Lawrence Krauss speak for everyone?

Vijai Singh- He speaks for everyone unless there is one that can explain what he cannot.
"Science without religion is lame;.... Albert Einstein"
Turk Hill - He maybe speaks for YOU. He doesn't speak for me. And certainly not for anyone else.

Vijai Singh - I'm maintaining he (@LKrauss) speaks for you unless you can explain what he cannot.
"Science without religion is lame;.... Albert Einstein"
Turk Hill - He is just saying that atheism is lame and fanaticism is blind. He is just saying people can accept what science teaches while being religious.

Vijai Singh- You should have let @LKrauss speak for you. He displayed intelligence and integrity in saying he doesn't know, displaying an open mind.
Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have all the answers – Socrates
Turk Hill - And what do you think he meant? If you give an answer then your closed-minded?
Vijai Singh - The answer is simple, it is just that it has to be presented to fools.
Science doesn't have the answer for the origin of matter, the universe, human civilization, language, etc.
We Indians do!
"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count...." Albert Einstein

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