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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Dec 22, 2022 - 8:10AM
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Paganism

Pierre Poilievre
Tonight as Jewish families in Canada and around the world gather to light the first candle of the menorah, on behalf of my family and our entire Conservative team, I wish you all a Happy #Chanukah.
May light always overcome darkness. Chag Chanukah Sameach!
Vijai Singh
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." Seneca - Roman philosopher

Clay Swarts
So John Locke is an unwise person?
Vijai Singh
Yes, whoever you, the unwise, know to be wise are all unwise.

Clay Swarts
Socrates was unwise?
Vijai Singh
If I answer in the affirmative, how would you know I'm right?

Clay Swarts
I wouldn't. But I think it's safe to say that Socrates was a wise person.
Vijai Singh
For me to declare one as Socrates wise, he would have had to declare his source knowledge. Until then, he was on his way, there.

Clay Swarts
So he was not wise?
Vijai Singh
Perhaps he was wise. All signs so far is pointing that way. Wisdom has only one source.
Pythagoras & many other Greek philosophers went to India to study and he may have been one of them.

Clay Swarts
But Socrates was religious Greek paegan
Vijai Singh
Says who? Wise men in every category of nationalism have been steadily demonized through out the ages by the ignorant.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

Clay Swarts
Says Socrates. Plato was educated by Socrates
Vijai Singh
Obviously you're not an authority otherwise you would know wise men could never be associated with paganism.

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