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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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God didn't compose the four Vedas.

Vijai Singh
"India is the cradle of the human race..." Twain
"these Indian people were civilized & learned.." Voltaire
"The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind.. Dr. Wallace
Armstrong comment on Vedic philosophy -
"The West has copied & claimed credit for Hindu sciences, language, mathematics & medicine without as much as a thank you." Jeffrey Armstrong

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
How were Vedas composed by the Almighty Himself if God has not a concrete, physical shape (form)? It is impossible for the abstract Universal Soul to create the four Vedas.

Vijai Singh
If you desire to know the truth. It is all here

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
Did God create (compose) the four Vedas with the object of redeeming (saving) the whole of mankind? (all human beings)? And in which language did God compose these four Vedas?

Vijai Singh
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius.

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
Do all people inhabiting the globe are conversant
with (know) Sanskrit?

Vijai Singh
"The ignorant can never understand the hidden mysteries of knowledge. But it is to the learned alone that knowledge reveals its true nature." Rig Veda 10: 17.4.

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
Not everyone knows Sanskrit. This fact proves conclusively that God did not compose the Vedas to redeem the whole of mankind, as the earth (globe) is
inhabited by different peoples speaking scores of diverse languages. What do you have to say to this?

Vijai Singh
God is not in the business of redeeming anyone. He created us and gave us instructions. It is up to us to do it by our own effort, as I am doing.

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
So why did he give instructions only one language when there are in the world several hundred languages?

Vijai Singh
I could tell you, but how can I do what God can't do, cure a fool.

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
So your saying your God is incapable of teaching everyone? why didn't he make a universal language at the beginning instead of several languages?

Vijai Singh
No, I am saying you are a fool and if God had a cure for fools, there would be no rats, cockroaches, hyenas, etc.

Irfan Singh Shahrukh
Seems like God's the one with the problem. He was incapable of making a universal language for all. When Vedas were revealed during a period when there were multiple languages it was impossible to integrate them.

Vijai Singh
Hey *******, I'm an am example of one who doesn't know Sanskrit.