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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Taslima
Oct 31, 2022 - 9:38AM
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There is no such thing as ''essential religious practice''

taslima nasreen
Oct 16
There is no such thing as ''essential religious practice''. Religious practice is essential to those who do not have enough scientific knowledge about the universe and evolution. Religious practice becomes non-essential as you ''grow up''.

Vijai Singh
Oct 16
Your quarrel is with Albert Einstein, "science without religion is lame;...."
There is one religion that is in harmony with reasoning & science and in conformity with natural laws.
Better to know of it (http://vjsingh.info) before spouting your ignorance before the world.

Perry Hoffman
Oct 19
The test of all truth!—all subsequent revelations must be tried and must coincide with the original standard.

Creation is the great original standard by which every other thing called the word of God is to be tried. The structure of the universe, everything else is to be tried.

Vijai Singh
Oct 20
Have you tried the Vedic revelation?

"The various objects of this wondrous earth are beacon flags to guide us on to know. The Glorious Sun of Life Who gave us birth and sent his Veda the righteous path to show." Yajur Veda 33:31

Perry Hoffman
Oct 29
You do not know the meaning of revelation. That is why you are stupid and believe in this stupid book.

Vijai Singh
Oct 30
I should know, I do have one.

How would you know what the meaning is when you don't have one?

Without a one, is the reason you're stupid and can't tell me what's wrong with mine.

Perry Hoffman
You don't know how revelation works.

"It's a contradiction to call anything revelation from secondhand verbal or in writing. Revelation is limited to the first communication. After this, it is only an account, it's not incumbent on me to believe it, it is not revelation." Paine

Vijai Singh
Paine is right, because all the revelations he knew were secondhand.
The Vedas are firsthand and if you've have no intention of investigating it, like him, you can continue to cry wolf.

Perry Hoffman
"The Persian shows the Zend-Avesta of Zoroaster, the lawgiver of Persia, and calls it the divine law; the Bramin shows the Shaster, revealed, he says to Brama, and given to him out of a cloud." Thomas Paine

Vijai Singh
Hey **** head, I'm talking of the Vedas, the first and only revelation. What do you or Paine know about it?

Everything that is wrong about secondary revelations, Paine has nailed it which points to the first that is right.

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