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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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Perry Hoffman
Oct 1

What do the "revealed" religions of the world compare to the immensity of the Creation? The true Word of God!

Search not the book called the Scripture, which any human hand might make, but the Scripture called the Creation.

Vijai Singh
Oct 2
It was creation only that led millions centuries ago to believe the earth was flat and the sun was moving and now that we know better, how can creation be credited for the change?
True religion says how, when & why there is creation.

Perry Hoffman
Oct 28

God’s creation did not lead any
human to have any knowledge other
than the gift of reason to figure
things out. Creation cannot be
blamed for how we use reason.

Vijai Singh
Oct 29
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There are right and wrong knowledge and if reasoning can't find the right one then it is the fault of creation. It is the reason you're stupid and I'm not.

Perry Hoffman
Oct 29

God’s creation did not lead anyone to wrong knowledge. It is from the study of true theology that all science is derived.

All “holy” books are man-made. It must be something that man could not make and that is the universe. Revelation exists in something that man could not make.

Vijai Singh
Oct 30

Vedic theology!
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” Einstein

"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made." Albert Einstein

Perry Hoffman
No book, no matter how many volumes can surpass the immensity of space. Only the volume of the infinity of space is suitable to reflect the power and wisdom of the Almighty. What is one written or printed book, the works of man’s hands compared with the work of creation?

Vijai Singh

It is (true) revelation that exhibits the power and wisdom of the Almighty.
What good is the "immensity of space" & "the work of creation", when you don't know the origin of matter, the universe, human civilization, language and most important the functions of the natural laws?