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The one true religion

A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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Richard Dawkins
@RichardDawkins
Oct 26
Science provides humanity with its greatest and most beautiful truths. There is no better method. If there was a better method, science would adopt it. A point well made in this new video put together by @Humanists_UK
We've just released our 3rd #thatshumanism video, narrated by our patron Stephen Fry! In this video, Stephen explains the humanist approach to understanding reality, thinking rationally, and the scientific method. RT! http://humanists.uk/thatshumanism

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 26
Only a prejudicial mind would think "there is no better method" when a genius has already discovered it.
"Science without religion is lame....." Albert Einstein

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 26
Prove there's a better method then, Vijai.
I know you can't. You can't back a single claim you've ever made.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 26
The proof lies in wisdom for which there is no shortcut to it.
It took me 20 years just to recognize an enlightened one. So good luck. Here is the way -

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 26
That isn't proof.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 27
I really don't give a **** about you. It worked for me.
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 27
Yes you do.
Your use of that quote will never not be ironic.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 27
I don't get it! Why do you feel the need to respond to me when Dawkins doesn't give a ****?
Do you really think you're much smarter than him?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 27
Because it irritates you.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 28
The wise can draw nectar (wisdom) from poison (ignorance).
Neither of us will change.
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurde Oct 28
You aren't wise, Vijai, just ignorant.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 28
The quote still stands, neither of us will change.
"When you talk, you're only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new." Dalai Lama

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 28
False.
I'm due for graduation soon.
Meanwhile you haven't changed at all. You just repeat yourself, never learning, never listening, never changing.
You repeat the same cliche argument over and over, with the same format, the same quotes, and the same vacuous statements.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Oct 28
"I'm due for graduation soon."
I'm glad I didn't!
"If there should be a conference among the most imaginative minds they will agree that almost all institutions of learning are only nurseries of prejudice, corruption, barbarism, and pedantry." Anon

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Oct 28
You wouldn't be capable anyway.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Nov 3
You're right, I could never be capable of being prejudiced or being a pedant.
I'm patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." Edith Sitwell

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 3
Except you're both prejudiced and pedantic.
Exactly why I have zero patience with you.
You talk like a con man. Your website reads like an evangelical scam churches run by con men.
I know you aren't wise, Vijai, and I know it burns you every time I say it.
Wisdom can't be possessed by repeatedly claiming you do. It has to be demonstrated, and you have not.
Vijai Singh
@vjsn Nov 5
You don't even know who is a con man.
If I'm a con man as the evangelical how come I've more haters than followers?
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato
If I'm not, who is then?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 5
Yes I do, you are one.
Because you're a garbage one. You fail the key requirement to be a successful con: you aren't convincing.
You don't speak the truth, Vijai. You just *believe* you do.
It doesn't matter who is. The key is you are not.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Nov 5
Now, you're claiming to know what the truth is.
It does matter, how else would you know who is?

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 5
I know what you say is a lie, because you refuse to prove any of it is true, and after all this time you can't back a single claim.
No it doesn't.
The simple fact of the matter is, according to the quotes you use, and the people you try to compare yourself with, you aren't wise.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn Nov 5
No you don't. I don't have to back anything. I've nothing to lose.
Again, prove to me you're not idiot, just tell who is.

That One Red Snifit from Super Mario Bros. 2
@XeMurder Nov 5
Yes I do. Yes you do.
You have nothing, period. Nothing intelligent or beneficial to add to any conversation.
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