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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Vijai Singh
Nov 1, 2021 - 11:31AM
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Dawkins on twitter - 3

Richard Dawkins
@RichardDawkins
Oct 24
Baldwin “was told” prop gun safe. Assistant director yelled “cold gun” to indicate no live rounds”.
But why need to yell? Why not assume?

Why would there EVER be live rounds within a mile of a film prop gun?
I truly don’t understand.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
Oct 24
Also, if you truly understood the functions of natural laws you would know the science of evolution is a false theory.

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Oct 24
Here comes the buffoon again!

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
Oct 26
Einstein a "buffoon"?
"We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws." Albert Einstein

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Oct 26
Yes, the buffoon is back, quoting words he doesn't understand, wrongly assuming they support his misguided views.
You seem to revel in error.
Try this: send a tweet which is either benign, or - heaven forbid - actually sensible.
I know it's asking a lot! Smiling face with sunglasses

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
22h
You may think you're intelligent but still a pedant to me. How are my views misguided when you yourself can't explain the quote?
Is the above sensible enough for you?

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
17h
I have no need to explain a quote you used to make a point you can't support.
If you tried to justify your view by reasoning instead of vague quotes, it would be easier to dispense with your arguments. You don't want that, so being vague is your ploy.

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
1h
Oh good, you can explain it, eh!

@vjsn: "Science without religion is lame...." Einstein
@LKrauss1: "It is not clear what he meant by that."
So, is Lawrence Krauss an idiot as you made him out to be or an honest man as I see him?

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Replying to
@vjsn
Let's see: now I've made someone out to be an "idiot" even though he had not entered the conversation until you mentioned him?
And yet again, the bulk of your comment is quoting others. Do you have any thoughts of your own?

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
9m
Replying to
@ArtRobson1
Well, he couldn't explain a quote that you can. What does that make him?
And do you think it is that simple for a fool to figure out the thoughts of the wise or do you believe in miracles?

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Oct 28
You may think he's a fool, but I have no reason to think so.
I am wise, but it's not difficult to figure out my thoughts, because I can express them clearly.
What is your excuse?

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
9m
"I feel, VJ, that what you are saying is as heavy and precious as gold. Anyone who can't receive your message because of your gruff style of offering it must seem to you as if you are throwing pearls before swine." Storm Benson, March 07, 2002
http://vjsingh.info/daring.

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Replying to
@vjsn
"When a man must use the words of others to express what he cannot say himself, his inadequacies speak more loudly than those whose words he has purloined." -
Soupy Sales, April 27, 1964

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
6m
Replying to
@ArtRobson1
It is better for it to come from your own as I can see the contempt & malice you harbor for the East.
In studying the systems of true philosophy, it is necessary that the mind adopt a discipline of impartiality and sobriety.
You, Sir, lack both.

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
20h
Hmmm... on 2nd thought, maybe you SHOULD be quoting others.
When you speak in your own words it is even more obvious that you are clueless.
Contempt & malice for the East?! How is that derived from anything I've said? Thinking face
Vijai Singh

@vjsn
5h
It's time to let you know there is no guarantee my philosophy can change a fool.
"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius
Action speaks louder than words.

Dennis
@ArtRobson1
Replying to
@vjsn
Ahhh.... back to quoting, where your vague & trite philosophical pablum is the equivalent of elevator music.
I didn't know you had a philosophy! Let me guess: does it include an invisible magical father figure?
Or is it a recipe for white bread?

Vijai Singh
@vjsn
3m
Replying to
@ArtRobson1
Invisible yes, but never magical.
The planet rotating and revolving, giving us the concept of time isn't magic.

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