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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.


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Study Qur’an

Vj ~ The Vedas said it long before

AM1 ~ But it was the Qur’an that reinforced it because the vedas became corrupted.

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AM1 ~ But it was the Qur’an that reinforced it because the vedas became corrupted.
Vj ~ How is it possible for an illiterate (Muhammad) to know what's corrupted or not?

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Vedas say, "There will be an illiterate foreigner and will be called as ‘Muhammad’.

Yet vedas are corrupted because they believe in millions, if not billions, of gods. For example, Krisna is in the Vedas. Brahman. Indra. These are three of the many gods mentioned in the vedas. But so is Allah. Though he goes unnamed, he is definitely mentioned in Yajur Ved 32:3.

Islam will prevail.

Re: Study Qur’an

Islam will prevail.
Vj ~ True, this is the last age (Kaliyug), massive ignorance will prevail.

"The most heinous and barbaric crime in this world would be to stop an individual to think freely. And when such a crime is legalized in the form of religion, one can easily imagine how disastrous it can be. Islam is such a religion. Islam imposes a threat to the whole world which is far worse than deforestation, nuclear destruction or AIDS. It is an insidious, devilish disease creeping into the veins of the world. Every individual must realize the destructive and evil nature of this religion, for it eats away at the very foundation of humanity which is an individual's ability to think individually and act accordingly." Zulfikar Khan