"Science without religion is lame........" Albert Einstein. Is Einstein and idiot or what? It is utter stupidity and highly prejudicial to declare science and religion to be incompatible when you haven't done honest inquiry into all religions.

Yes, there is a war between science and religion

Just remember, VJ, that your religion is no exception to the rule. If there's a war with religion, which there is, it's also with yours.

Just remember, VJ, that your religion is no exception to the rule.
Vj ~ All I need to remember, you're a dumb ass who knows nothing of my religion and how it all began.

If there's a war with religion, which there is, it's also with yours.
Vj ~ I know, the war is between the "stupid" and "intelligent" and you know who they are. I'm bullet-proof protected by reason, science and natural laws.

Ha! Your bullet-proof with mythology. You’ve void of reason, science, and natural laws. And all you need to remember is that you refuse to answer my honest assertions, which makes you weak, stupid, and uneducated. How did your faith began? Who cares, if it’s not from god, nobody cares, much less myself.

Ha! Your bullet-proof with mythology.
Vj ~ How is it any different from being intelligent and full of doubts?

You’ve void of reason, science, and natural laws.
Vj ~ How is possible for an idiot who doesn't know the origin of morals, ethics, language and science know that?

which makes you weak, stupid, and uneducated.
Vj ~ And you think you're better off eh! Think again, my friend.
You're here -
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

and I'm here -
"Philosophy and reason will remain the most beautiful sanctuary they have always been for the select few." Einstein


How did your faith began?
Vj ~ The question you should ask, is why you see yourself as intelligent and still full of doubts.

I never said I am “cocksure” about anything. This is a trick challenge of yours, and yes, atheists are more intelligent than theists by a few points of the IQ, and then theists scratch their head and wonder why.

Am I full of doubts? Of course, I don’t have the arrogance to claim I know who the universe began, if there’s a purpose, and what happens after death. Of course I’m full of doubts, who couldn’t be, lest you are god? But sure you’re not, god wouldn’t be that stupid.

And yes, I think I can look through the historical record, and with the kwowledge of modern psychology, guess accurately the development of ethics, language, and science. You, however, have to explain how god made us, why he made us, and why he set up the natural laws the way he did, let alone allow sin, death, child suffering, and destruction to enter the world. If he’s a perfect loving god, what made him nearly wipe us all out 180,000 years ago? What was the point? And you willingly worship this being?

Why didn’t he make us have wings, and shove us in heaven immediately? Why did he allow evil regimes? I’m afraid you have a lot more to answer than I!

But go ahead, if it makes you feel better that you’re much smarter than me, fine. You live in a fairy tale anyway, no use being anymore realistic.

And don’t bother to answer my questions, like how Faith began, because you don’t have answers. God wasn’t nice to supply them, was he? Yet he cares who you sleep with, what you eat, and what you think. Where’s his end of the bargain? If I’m going to live by all that, I want some answers.

VJ, it’s alright, you don’t have to answer me, all you have to do is pray. So go sit and pray. Personally, I call it a waste of time. Imagine me, praying to my dog:

“Dear dog, thank you forgiving me life today, thank you for forgiving me my sins, for saving my loved ones, and I’m looking forward to eternal life. So I’ll be nice and scratch your back so you can scratch mine, here’s a doggy treat.”

That’s you, VJ, then you wonder why your Mom thought you an undeveloped child needing someone to feed him through life.

I don’t have the arrogance to claim I know
Vj ~ True, it is only when one has the wisdom such a claim can be made.

And you willingly worship this being? I’m afraid you have a lot more to answer than I!
Vj ~ Complaining won't help my friend. My answer is, follow me, when everything else fails, just follow instructions!

The cockiness of this guy proceeds him, "follow me." What are you now, god?

The cockiness of this guy proceeds him, "follow me." What are you now, god?
Vj ~ No, but I'm close, but if "cockiness" is an impediment for you right now, here is someone
closer.

Another religious nut. Spends all his time praying, then dies and finds out it was all for naught.

Another religious nut.
Vj ~ Who was totally free of doubts.

Spends all his time praying,
Vj ~ If it is away of removing all doubts, it was worth the while, isn't it?

then dies and finds out it was all for naught.
Vj ~ That's you and Darwin, full of doubts!

His co-founder Dr. A. R. Wallace is better off.
One of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that: "The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty.”

He further wrote in “Social Environment and Moral Progress,” strongly refuting the social and moral evolution theory:
“In the earliest records which have come down to us from the past, we find ample indications that accepted standard of morality and the conduct resulting from these were in no degree inferior to those which prevail today, though in some respects, they were different from ours. The wonderful collection of hymns known as the Vedas are a vast system of religious teachings as pure and lofty as those of the finest portions of the Hebrew Scriptures. Its authors were fully our equals in their conception of the universe and the Deity expressed in the finest poetic language.”

“In it (Veda) we find many of the essential teachings of the most advance religious thinkers.” “We must admit that the mind which conceived and expressed in appropriate language, such ideas as are everywhere present in those Vedic hymns, could not have been inferior to those of the best of our religious teachers and poets to our Milton, Shakespeare and Tennyson.”