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A discriminating intellect is that in which knowledge based only on words, real knowledge and ordinary knowledge based on sense perception or reasoning are present in a mixed state and the mind alternates between them.
"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.
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Five Tests of true religion - Feb 08, 2002
  1. It (revelation) must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not over a long period of time after.
    Oppose - It is unjust of Yahwe, Allah and Christ, to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Ten Commandments, the Q'uran, and the New Testament of His 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Just, Compassionate and Merciful God.
  2. It must conform with (immutable) Natural laws
  3. Oppose - The cause of the physical body is the reproductive element - any other method as man was created from dust or blood-clot and all other miracles of God and Prophets are a breach to this law.
  4. It must be in harmony with reasoning.
    Oppose - Incest which results in mental and physical infirmities, is an immoral action and it had to be the same also in the beginning (creation of one man and one woman).
  5. It must be in harmony with science.
    Oppose - Modern science has proven creation to be more than 6,000 years old, the earth is spherical and it rotates and revolves, contradictions to the Torah, Bible and Q'uran.
  6. Its truth must be confirmed by four evidences :-
  • Direct Cognition - Not all that is known by perception can be true.
  • Inferences - God is eternal therefore we can infer that there were past creations and as well as there will be future ones.
  • Testimony - The testimonies of Rishis, sages and seers of the Vedas (altruistic teachers are all in harmony with each other.
  • History - There are many books (Mahabharata, Valmiki's Ramayan) and source of other civilization which speak of the past ancient Vedic (Aryas) civilization of 5,000 years ago and earlier.

Let's be reasonable when it comes the most abstruse science of God (wisdom), the ignorant (by repenting) and the wise (by austerity) can never reap the same rewards.

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Perry Hoffman On X
Jan 31, 2024 - 8:49AM
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Deism II

Perry Hoffman
Jan 26 2024
From my view Vedas are bunch of human chants. Vedas to me is just another book based on human word of mouth and nothing more. Holy means dedicated to God. Are Vedas any different than the Koran?

Why should the vedas be any more holy than a tree?Everything in nature is holy.

Vijai Singh
It is because of the Vedas..

"India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace; human speech, ..." Mark Twain

"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count, ..." Albert Einstein

"..Indian people were civilized & learned, to dispute their antiquity." Voltaire

Perry Hoffman
It is only because of the stupid vedas that Hindus are superstitious. The vedas promote flat earth, Rig Veda 10.58.3.

It is the fault of the Vedic nonsense that led millions to believe the earth was flat and the sun was moving. I'm so glad I’ve got nothing to do with such a God!

Vijai Singh
Is that what you got from my work (http://vjsingh.info), that I am a Hindu?
That would mean I'm right about you being a *******.

Perry Hoffman
You're all ****ed up in the head if you think the Deity communicates in human language.

"The Word of God cannot exist in any written or human language…" Paine

Vedas came to us in writing (second hand). Revelation is thereby completely out of the question with those books

Vijai Singh
You can't go around like an idiot shouting when you don't have a source knowledge that tells you who, how, why, when and what happens after, and call yourself intelligent.

After revelation to man, man puts it into writing, how else it could have come down to us now?

Perry Hoffman
Revelation cannot exist in any written or printed book. Revelation is limited to the first communication. After this, it is only an account of something, not a revelation.

Who says it lacks a source? The Creation is the source of all knowledge. Nature is the manual of the Deist.

Vijai Singh
Are you that stupid? The first civilization aren't here to tell us about the first communication. They put it in writing to past it down. Nothing has changed in it, the reason why it still remains revelation and not man-made.
http://vjsingh.info/revelation.html

Perry Hoffman
Let it sink in.

"Revelation is limited to the first communication. If anything was revealed, it is revelation to that person only. His account of it (either verbally or in writing) is not revelation; and whoever puts faith, puts it in the man from whom the account comes." Paine

Hank Hankerson
"He lived long, did some good, and much harm."
Paine's obituary.

Perry Hoffman
Right. It is typical that the uneducated masses cannot handle the truth.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.” ― Plato

Vijai Singh
For you the educated!
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education." Bertrand Russell
You too would have wanted him dead. During his 10-year tenure, 16 attempts were made on his life before they finally ended it.
http://vjsingh.info/dayanan.html


Perry Hoffman
No, he had the same right to his opinion as I do to mine. The only difference is, that deism is actually true.
12:52 PM · Jan 30, 2024

Vijai Singh
Hey *******, how is "Deism actually true", when you know nothing of his opinion?

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